Differences between Japanese and Western live shows
#11
What makes me think of Japanese shows:

1. Having four or more bands (often from relatively unrelated music genres!) on the show.
2. The whole 'drink with ticket' thing.
3. Teeny-tiny clubs (barely able to fit the band on stage, let alone an audience).
4. The audience doing synchronised moves (and everyone seemingly knowing what they are!)
5. Venue-limited releases.
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#12
(12-07-2017, 03:47 AM)billm99uk Wrote: 2. The whole 'drink with ticket' thing.
3. Teeny-tiny clubs (barely able to fit the band on stage, let alone an audience).

#2 - I don’t understand why they do this.

I mean, I understand the whole “gouging more cash out of you” but, just not HOW they do it - you have to pay for your drink ticket on the door. It makes venue admission more of a pain in the arse as they then have to deal with taking more cash, giving out change and tokens etc - it’d be so much easier to whack the drink cost on the price of the ticket automatically, and then they just rip your ticket at the venue once you collect your drink. No-one does this though...

#3 - Actually the stages I’ve seen have all been a decent size, to the extent that some are literally half audience space, half stage. From the video footage, it then looks like the band are playing a decent sized show rather than in front of 100 people or whatever. This is only based on a sample of the 9 or 10 Japanese venues I’ve been to so far though...
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#13
I can imagine that last thing being very pleasant or convenient for video purposes. For small bands too; it looks like you're playing a decent venue because the stage is big and there's not much capacity, so it looks full.
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#14
From what I saw, any Western shows charged a load more than the domestic bands, I mentioned that Italian power metallers Secret Sphere were charging 7000Y for their show, plus I saw not-that-popular Frontiers Records acts such as HEAT and Eclipse charging the same amount.

As a guide, most shows I saw (for your average Walkure or Black-Listed Records band) were 2500-3000Y.

Aldious and Mary’s Blood were in the 4000Y range I think.

Galneryus and Doll$boxx were 5000Y.

I get it that it may be the case that if Western bands aren’t allowed to charge the big bucks, they may just end up not coming to Japan at all, but a Japanese band would never get away with charging double what a Western one does. Supply and demand I guess, but I don’t know how Western rock bands break there if they charge high prices from an early stage.
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#15
Isn't Eclipse huge in Japan though?

What you're saying about the costs is exactly what a British-Japanese friend of mine once said. He went to every concert he could go to once he lived in England, because it seemed affordable by his standards.
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#16
all western punk bands allways have normal prices. about 2000Y. most of those bands dont give a damn about the money anyway and come to japan for the experience. also, 2000Y is still almost 4 times the price of a punk gig in europe.
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#17
(12-06-2017, 08:04 PM)Masurao Wrote: The Japanese metalheads really need a lot more omph in their shows as well. I mean it's nice to be able to stand in one place and just chill out without having to worry about crowdsurfers and walls of death and all, but still, they need to get loose more.

Here, Scott Ian got pissed of at the crowd for not moving at all. See 9:44, and even after that, the crowd does not change at all. (Probably did not even understand what he was saying.)





Compare to the other extreme, Chile. Same part at 4:28:





Also, big difference, no flashing of tits in Japan, even at Steel Panther Sad

When I saw DragonForce in Tokyo, there was a circle pit for almost the entire show lol. So the not-moving part for Western bands is not the norm necessarily I think...
Huge BABYMETAL fan (28 lives and counting). Go to Japan frequently for lives of other bands like Aldious, Mary's Blood and the alike.
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