[J-Rock] Band-Maid
I think it was 150USD for the VIP tickets for the San Francisco show. While this was for the whole two day J-pop summit weekend I know a few people who bought this ticket primarily for Band-Maid. For me it was pretty much only to see Band-Maid and May-n with most of the rest of the weekend was just filler.
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(11-05-2017, 12:10 PM)Agonymph Wrote: 30 euros is very pricey for just one band that isn't huge here, I'll have to back up qpr for this. It is a bit more common among Japanese bands though.

Ok... and that might be a fair price complaint if it was some band from Sweden or Germany, driving around Europe on a 30-date tour in their own van.
A Japanese group coming to Europe has a lot of additional or different expenses to come play the same venue. The tickets are priced accordingly. If you don’t go see them when they come, you can’t complain if they, or other Japanese groups don’t come in the future.
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What you're saying definitely makes sense, but the opposite is also true: if smaller Japanese managements don't adapt to European prices, they may end up earning less than they could have when the tickets were, let's say, 10 euros cheaper. Curious people who "might go" may opt out if the tickets are too expensive.

Japanese acts do have the luck that the Japan-minded audience is extremely loyal. Except for the most underground bands, there's a fan base that will go to everything they do here.
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For all we know, they may already be losing money at 30 euros, though?

I try to assume that the original ticket price is as fair as can be, but that the markups after that by venue, ticket agency and/or resellers is where the price gouging occurs.
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It's possible, but still, 200 people showing up at a 20 euro rate or 100 at a 30 euro rate already makes a huge difference. I have the idea qpr would have gone if it was cheaper, for instance.

I certainly hope you're right about the ticket prices being fair. I've seen the prices overall - so not just Japanese bands - rise over the last few years and I can't really find a clear explanation for it. I was actually surprised at Lovebites only costing 10 pounds in London.
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Bridear played for 17€ on their german tour.

Galmet was that same too.

And both bands don't have a european label on support as Band Maid has.

And finally it was 36€ for a ticket.
Maybe it's a ok price for other european countries but japan metal is not very big in Germany.
To be honest nobody cares about bands from Japan.

If you wanna be successful in one of the most important european markets, well I don't know if it's a good start to sell overpriced tickets especially as you have so many metal concerts people can choose of.
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(11-06-2017, 02:35 AM)Agonymph Wrote: I certainly hope you're right about the ticket prices being fair. I've seen the prices overall - so not just Japanese bands - rise over the last few years and I can't really find a clear explanation for it. I was actually surprised at Lovebites only costing 10 pounds in London.

that's an absolute giveaway, even if they are a new band. As context, there's a Rage Against the Machine cover band playing at the same venue the night before and they're only charging £10 also...

That said, I expect that it's easier for Lovebites to charge a low price given that I expect they would already have had their airfare and equipment hire costs paid for by the Hyper Japan festival where they're playing the day before.

Band-Maid did boost the prices in the UK since the previous occasion by maybe £5-10 (can't really remember) but it didn't really seem to put anyone off and they drew several hundred more (in a bigger venue) than they did last time.

I think ticket prices have gone up a lot for live music in general just because bands can no longer rely on an income from their recordings, so you see all the stuff like paid meet & greets (which Band-Maid did), "VIP tickets" (with entry to soundchecks and things like that) and so on.
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(11-06-2017, 02:35 AM)Agonymph Wrote: I was actually surprised at Lovebites only costing 10 pounds in London.

Me too. I guess they're just trying to attract as many people as possible (from Hyper Japan or elsewhere) and just thinking of it as an investment in developing a fan base.

(11-06-2017, 02:35 AM)Agonymph Wrote: It's possible, but still, 200 people showing up at a 20 euro rate or 100 at a 30 euro rate already makes a huge difference. I have the idea qpr would have gone if it was cheaper, for instance.

Well for me the train fare was £85, the hotel £140. The tickets were the least expensive bit. Even the VIP ones.
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I absolutely agree that ticket prices are climbing, (and this is unrelated to any single band) but a huge part of the problem in the US is that most of the venues, big and small, are now owned by large production company conglomerates like AEG or Live Nation. Those companies are either components of the same companies that own Ticketmaster and AXS. These same companies also own ticket resale outlets like StubHub and TicketsNow, and are selling huge blocks of tickets to themselves at face value, then reselling them to concert-goers at markups of 100, 200, 300% or more.

Here’s an example: Modest Mouse played a show at The Showbox, a former dinner theater owned by AEG. The tickets were $40 for a single general admission, and went up fast if you wanted a seat or a table.
Tickets were sold by AXS, also owned by AEG and had venue markups and “service fees” of @$15, even if you used their app to hold an electronic ticket in your phone, or you printed at home.
I was in the virtual queue for an hour before they went on sale, which was as early as you could get in ‘line’.
I was also looking at the reseller owned completely by AEG in a separate window.
The instant sales started, AXS reported a complete sell-out, and the reseller had hundreds of tickets for a venue that holds @300. Those tickets were $120 for a single general admission ticket.

I would GLADLY pay 30euros if I knew that probably at least half of that was going to the artist, instead of some shitty corporation that lobbies to keep this crap legal.

So when you complain about a price that seems relatively fair compared to the ass-raping we get, it is a little hard to feel sympathetic . Smile <shrugs>
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